su-27s you 20 or so we're happy
including the remodeled the VNC model
concer Simpson and if you don't know
that the C&D model of the su-24m swing
wings and they have a fixed wing version
in the saloon version they had su-27s
I'll see I said that big 30 words may 29
so they have this lottery and was flown
by American pilots American Air Force
pilots that were trained in this and so
when they when they were when they
scheduled the mission then they took off
somebody had to talk to him on their
frickin teeth they were going up to do a
functional flightcheck or they are going
up to do a mission or whatever they
talked to me and so that was one of my
additional duties was controlling the
air force's mix water when it would take
off now I can't tell you where they went
whoops barks lon and tell you where
where they went but I and I can't tell
you where they came from I could just
tell you that the reason we had this
squadron was at the time you know we
looked at the Soviet Union as a as a
everything and non air breathing threat
and everything is bombers and on your
breathing is ballistic missiles so
you're you're talking about space threat
and also a air breathing or atmospheric
threat so we had to meet that threat
somehow so the Air Force with the
airport students that collect that all
these makes from different countries
around the Middle East and they
collected them all in what they did was
they took them off and they flew what we
call it dissimilar aircraft combat
tactics we take off and they would mix
it up with American f-16s and f-18s
and activities and the reason why is
they wanted to get they wanted to get a
look at Soviet aircraft on the radars
one thing that the Soviet aircraft have
that we hope is that they're very small
compared to ours and what what the
reflecting value theory I think it's
stick I think it's a 180 for me anyway
the reflecting the reflective value is
called a radar cross-section and I knew
the values of all the all the aircraft
because that was my job so the radar
cross section tells you how reflective
and their crack is how reflective it
will be when you hit it with the radar
be um speaking of that my presentation
is on radar assam present now you would
think that radar would be a relatively
new thing to us well it's not who's ever
who's ever flown or not flown on an
airliner look out the window and saw
this antenna attorney that's right
antenna tourney did you notice anything
about it that was different or did you
know same thing about her it was unique
or something that you wanted to ask a
question about the that type of antenna
is called a air search radar and there's
a little bar on the top of it if you see
if you look at it there's a little bar
that's called an interrogator responder
now they use what's called a dsb
somebody told me they can that with the
right equipment you can listen to a DSP
and so the you know it's relatively
simple tool
a DSP but security wise may be
relatively easy to to interfere with a
DSP and who has a cell phone who does I
never met okay wellman I offset for a
reason okay well well I say let's say I
wanted you not to be able to take calls
I'm going to put a what's called a noise
jammer somewhere in this room and it's
going to generate noise on the cell
phone frequencies and when if I do that
in this room you will not be able to
make phone calls on yourselves and it
does not matter what kind of cell you
have does not matter what brand and
still jamming and this is one thing that
part of the thing that I wanted to share
with you the frequency spectrum that
that that cell phones are in Sea lies in
the microwave band now let's see the
microwave band takes up part of the
search radar bank now remember that
radar I told you you would sometimes see
out of the airplane window on the
airport the search Reiter that band is
partially taken up by by microwaves and
the civilian designation is different
from the military so if I say I wanted
Jim I want to practice jamie feltham and
that's that some
oban and up tango man up to x-ray I have
the eye on the charts online CD anyway
the those bands the military shams
regularly for practice and I encountered
some of that and I was taught electronic
countermeasures and the electronic
counter counter metrics in other words
counter in the electronic game there's
different kinds of jamming and the I
believe that any frequency can be jammed
if you know if you know what that
frequency band is it can be jammed it
can be physically child or
electronically jammed and that goes for
all of your of your media devices that
goes for all of your media devices your
cars did you know that the the auto
industry has has i want to say rented
but actually that's not really a true
word the auto industry has a specific
microwave band for the using automobiles
now you know when you send off up send
up your 15 year old move with their
learning permanent and they get into a
car and basically the car parks itself
you drive up to a truck that acts out in
front of you car stops itself the car
goes down the street it keeps junior or
this in her lane or his laning so they
don't drift end up that's basically
that's basically what they do now the
driverless cars operate on the same
frequencies so if I know that frequency
band I can set up a jammer and jam that
babe so like
like the previous speaker said he caused
a white screen on wordpress for an
estimated you know a small or a specific
period of time I put a janitor on your
on that frequency for your car I could
Jam your car yeah I could Jam your cell
phone so so if you ran off the road you
can't call anybody I Jam your car's your
car car sell own so you couldn't call
anybody from your car this this is what
I wanted to share with you because these
frequencies can be vulnerable vulnerable
microwave use of microwave frequencies
is not new back in the 90s the United
States was looking for they're in fact
they're doing it right now they're
looking for a new new and updated
equipment for air traffic control you
know GPS GPS does the work except GPS
satellites are vulnerable to what e.m p
n ebuddy know what that is you like a
magnetic pulse okay now the problem is
we look at gps that's something that is
relatively safe what I'm telling you is
when we look at all of our frequency
spectrum we have to look at it as
something that we have to treat as
something valuable to us not as
something to take for granted how to
treat our frequency bands as if their
goalie because that's what they are to
us we paid on a week we have our friends
honor we train with them
so they're valued to us now as far as
radars and sri microwave radar is
microwave radar is probably the best the
most type of radar you could use that
seed because it's running site now I
know that they I am picture of a
microwave tower when I lived in Southern
Nevada in the sandbox the there is a
microwave tower down the street from us
and it looked like a palm tree so if you
and I remember seeing it and I'm looking
at it what is that to microwave Tower
you see the microwave repeaters on the
tower the microwave repeaters our line
of sight to the other towers okay the
microwave signal is his line of sight
and it has to be boosted now they've
right now industry has developed a way
to produce more power in microwave
systems so now we can see let's see I
see I read any military intelligence
magazine last month that there Raytheon
is developing a radar that can see
submarine periscopes if they're above
water that's cool if you can and there
is one thing that microwave microwaves
do provide black face or a phased array
antennas provide very very detailed
return now what's neat about microwaves
is you can color you can color the
return you can make it in two colors you
can make it in two forms i can actually
you can actually have your computer
generate a form of what you're looking
at a microwave which is cool sorry about
the presentation
that's about as far as I can go so go
ahead sorry about that guys
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